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Old 01-16-2010, 07:41 PM
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Default Marijuana Propaganda!

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Old 01-17-2010, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: Marijuana Propaganda!

nah..it's their opinion. Some good points. Some thing I never considered.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:58 AM
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The article is a piece of shit, the author is an Agent...

"I don’t believe it would be appropriate to fully embrace the drug as a nation and I am confident you would run into many of the problems currently seen in alcohol and tobacco. Contrary to popular belief marijuana is not good for you and in many cases has been shown to be worse for ones lung than tobacco. Along with that comes the increased use of marijuana in public areas, which could only have a negativeimpact on society."

...He gives no examples, just lets the reader insert their own prejudice. It has nothing to do with "a nation", it's a persons right, individually, has nothing to do with anyone else.

" The drug dumbs you down, blurs your memory"

...I think he meant to say, me and my, not you and your, unless the article is a brainwashing piece....

Here he talks about legalization...

"The risk of what the outcome would be to be to society is catastrophic. The murder rate in the city of Amsterdam, where Marijuana is legal, is three times higher than that of London and problems with drug abuse have increased dramatically in the wake of legalization."

Lots of other activities are legal in Amsterdam, not just Marijuanas use, you cannot blame Marijuana, let alone this guy is trying to implicate that Marijuana is contributing to murder, His comment is bullshit. I bet if I look at the actual stats he is lying too...

Trying to justify taking something from me because some else is an idiot is impossible. And he makes out like drug abuse is a bad thing, if you agree with that you are brainwashed. Whatever makes you happy is what you should do, don't live your life trying to impress others, for one thing it's egotistical and another it makes you a slave, this is your life, people judge success differently, ones success is anothers failure.

"I’m not claiming that the consumption of marijuana leads to violent killings and I don’t really buy all that gateway drug crap"

...Hypocrite. What was he saying before then, about Amsterdam ??
Why bring it up... Amsterdam is a bad example, as there is many other drugs and activities (prostitution) that are legal there, not just MJ, yet he subtley uses the example to make it seem like legalising Marijuana would turn a city into a Hell Hole.

Obvious Agent... Trying to appear fair but has an agenda. Really annoying, very unhelpfull, derogatory, stereotyping tw@

All those dealers and users ("borderlineretarded", as he calls us, as if it's normal to hide away and Smoke.* Imagine that for a moment...Standing talking to an Officer of the Law with a Blunt blazing and there is no issue, he comments on the fragrance. What would that do for Stoner cop relations ? & What would the cops have to spend their time doing if not busting on Marijuana. There should be a cartoon with the scenario of; The cop chasing the Stoners, abit like Final Destination, but the Stoner always get away unskathed and the cop gets his. anyway.),...that are in the Pen right now, and this character says no to legalization, all the families destroyed. The contamination issue... All the health benifits.

The government ships in the harder drugs and tells people MJ is a gateway drug, promoting their variety.
"Marijuana is a gateway drug,... ,..."

Say it often enough and people/Stoners will believe it, and so go and start using the drugs you got special.

"I’ve smoked one too many joints"

What is that supposed to mean ??

"but I’ll take my weed illegally thank you and you can shove all these legalization bills up your ass."

...People fight hard against the government trying to get those bill introduced.

"Potential tax revenue for a nationwide legalization is estimated to be in the billions and these days the federal government could use any revenue it can get its hands on."

You would say that, you are one of them...

That's it, this punk isn't worth another moment of my time.

moon, I think it's more than an opinion. It's a clear attempt at brainwashing.
It comes down to, stopping a person doing a hobby they enjoy, for no good reason.
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: Marijuana Propaganda!

I'm going to have to go read it again..maybe I read the wrong artical

only those who are of weak mind can be brainwashed
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:11 PM
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I think the writer was expressing thier opinion in a blog that they would choose decriminalization over legalization, then they stated thier points(factual or not..what they felt was true)..(true for them anyways).

now..if weed was legal, the government would have control over thc content etc, cost..and eventually it would go underground again, because you can be sure that growing and selling would still be illegal..no?..




"Now you may wonder why a user would push for decriminalization when the full legalization of a drug was an option"

"To me the current system works. I call a dealer, we meet up, I buy a sack and then I get high. I don’t want the government taking a cut, I don’t need a store that sells thirty different strands and I diffidently don’t need a card that says I’m fit to consume it."

" The only advantage to a complete legalization of the drug is that people could get high in public places like playgrounds, sidewalks and anywhere one can socially smoke a cigarette".

"Hate it or love we live in a weed free society that loves to get high. We need changes to our government, changes to laws and morals but our society’s current stance on marijuana is cemented. It would be impossible to pull a u-turn and the act of legalization could lead to dangerous consequences. I love to smoke weed as much as anyone you’ll find, but I don’t believe our nation is ready for that big of a change."
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Old 01-18-2010, 07:47 PM
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I really don't know what your point is moon.
As I have just said to someone else, your thoughts are one thing and opinion another. An opinion can propergate a belief in another, a thought cannot. What I 'm saying is, that someone less educated on the matter than the Author is controlled by the version of events, as they do not have there own understanding, this is why I get annoyed even if it is just what they 'THINK', once they start to broadcast their thoughts they start effecting peoples opinions.

That last bit makes me sick,
"I love to smoke weed as much as anyone you’ll find"...

Not as much as this one.

moon, re-read the first paragraph assuming that this guy doesn't really Smoke, that he tried it once, then see how it comes across...
As derogateory, he makes us laugh at ourselves, it does nothing for improving the reputation of Stoners, it goes the opposite why and demeans Us.

" The only advantage to a complete legalization of the drug is that people could get high in public places like playgrounds, sidewalks and anywhere one can socially smoke a cigarette".

Playgrounds... Don't you see..?
That is not the only advantages to complete legalisation... But that is what this character just stated.

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All the people that will go to prison, get fined, have their lives disrupted, wouldn't.

How about all the people that drink instead of using Marijuana... I guess it's a negative that they survive, with over population and all..... If a normal person could go to a Cafe and Smoke MJ instead of drinking poison that would be an advantage.

We would be able to smoke in more places than tobacco, as that is not socially acceptable indoors, Marijuana is, because it's not deadly like "cigarettes".

Marijuana quality control, less contamination for the average user, advantage.

Not having to associate with people from the wrong side of the tracks, people have been robbed and even killed going to "buy a sack". It can be dangerous to deal with dealers. Having a safe place to purchase the goods is an advantage.

People that otherwise would not have access to Marijuana would have, advantage.
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dam, WM must have found the HAZES! or he's on the rag........hehehe
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:10 AM
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I have actually been Smoking Haze...
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:26 PM
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Its just a political statement!!!!
If it is any more than that you of course have a problem.......Iv had worse problems.
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