Re: Ancient Australian Strains, Aboriginal Usage Of Cannabis During Childbirth

[rubio@panama.com]

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:55:41 GMT in <3f45a24a@news.comindico.com.au>,
"amazure" <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> graced the world with
this thought:

>This means that Australia once had native strains of cannabis, and
>may still, in some obscure remote area of the continent.

....or, that the locals had an economy that gave them access to
imported items from elsewhere, much as how cinnabar from the San
Francisco Bay Area has been found in paint pigments used by indigenous
people in the midwest.
It was 4000 years ago. Four THOUSAND. The existence of some "mystery
strain" secreted away in some remote part of Australia isn't highly
likely, IMO... besides, in the end, who cares?

[amazure]

<rubio@panama.com> wrote in message news:3qhckv0t9g8ncv5tns8s1igikr4fd0c9qb@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 04:55:41 GMT in <3f45a24a@news.comindico.com.au>,
> "amazure" <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> graced the world with
> this thought:
>
> >This means that Australia once had native strains of cannabis, and
> >may still, in some obscure remote area of the continent.
>
> ...or, that the locals had an economy that gave them access to
> imported items from elsewhere, much as how cinnabar from the San
> Francisco Bay Area has been found in paint pigments used by indigenous
> people in the midwest.
> It was 4000 years ago. Four THOUSAND. The existence of some "mystery
> strain" secreted away in some remote part of Australia isn't highly
> likely, IMO... besides, in the end, who cares?

The Cave is in South Australia, so trade is unlikely due to great distances.
Also, nomadic Australian Aborigines did not domesticate plants,
so the leaves were likely picked locally.
Many new plant varieties are still being found throughout Australia.
Australia has many wild & remote wilderness areas where original
strains might still exist. They recently found HUGE Wollemi Pine
trees that were thought extinct back when the dinosaurs roamed
- a bit longer than 4000 years :-)
Many Australian plants thrive in very depleted soils and a strain
with similar traits would be very useful for hemp breeders,
including industrial help producers.

[Alex]

"amazure" <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> schreef in bericht
news:3f46c1b3@news.comindico.com.au...

> The Cave is in South Australia, so trade is unlikely due to great distances.
> Also, nomadic Australian Aborigines did not domesticate plants,
> so the leaves were likely picked locally.

Just adding my two cents, but I saw a documentary where they
maintained that the now nomadic Australians may have been
more sedentary, even engaged in agriculture and fishing.
The researcher had located a commercial fishing pond
that had either catfish or eel (I forget which).

The idea is that they were driven off the more fertile land
by the invasion of the British.

It might have been Discovery Channel or the BBC History
section.

Alex

[Alano]

Am Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:12:39 +0200, "Alex" <avdeelen.REMOF@wanadoo.nl>
schriebt:

>"amazure" <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> schreef in bericht
>news:3f46c1b3@news.comindico.com.au...
>
>> The Cave is in South Australia, so trade is unlikely due to great distances.
>> Also, nomadic Australian Aborigines did not domesticate plants,
>> so the leaves were likely picked locally.
>
>Just adding my two cents, but I saw a documentary where they
>maintained that the now nomadic Australians may have been
>more sedentary, even engaged in agriculture and fishing.
>The researcher had located a commercial fishing pond
>that had either catfish or eel (I forget which).
>
>The idea is that they were driven off the more fertile land
>by the invasion of the British.
>
>It might have been Discovery Channel or the BBC History
>section.
>
>Alex
>
Limited evidence. The stone fish traps are very rare. The
aboriginies were never nomadic, having very strict guidlines on there
wandering where and when where largely proscibed by a fuctioning
tradition. Some however did not move far no more than a few hundred
metres for seasonal advantage.

Alano