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amazure
08-22-2003, 03:05 AM
Breed New Strains That Look Completely Different.
Grow them in your front garden :-)
Grow them as a hedge :-)
Bred them to look like a boring old weed 8-) ...
Imagine the possibilities...
amazure
08-23-2003, 01:27 AM
<rubio@panama.com> wrote in message news:flhckvob7h1vdm03ibnjmvodtjbrvlcb3b@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:47:31 GMT in
> <3f459252$1@news.comindico.com.au>, "amazure"
> <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> graced the world with this
> thought:
>
> >: http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/article.cgi?num=1651 :
>
> Quote from this article:
> "Unfortunately, the ABC does not provide a potent smoke"
Nothing any half-decent breeder couldn't fix by crossing with
Potent Strains & selecting for both potency & appearance.
Add a little Colchicine for good measure & mutation :-)
Alano
08-23-2003, 10:59 AM
Am Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:27:47 GMT, "amazure"
<amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> schriebt:
>
><rubio@panama.com> wrote in message news:flhckvob7h1vdm03ibnjmvodtjbrvlcb3b@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:47:31 GMT in
>> <3f459252$1@news.comindico.com.au>, "amazure"
>> <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> graced the world with this
>> thought:
>>
>> >: http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/article.cgi?num=1651 :
>>
>> Quote from this article:
>> "Unfortunately, the ABC does not provide a potent smoke"
>
>Nothing any half-decent breeder couldn't fix by crossing with
>Potent Strains & selecting for both potency & appearance.
>
>Add a little Colchicine for good measure & mutation :-)
>
It could get complex though. Hundreds of diffent Second or even
third generation crosses. The major use would be for outdoor plants
therefore a strain that breeds true would be of more use than a clone.
Alano
amazure
08-23-2003, 02:41 PM
"Alano" <cameleon@mada.gas.ca> wrote in message news:3f47484f$1_5@news.bluewin.ch...
| Am Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:27:47 GMT, "amazure"
| <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> schriebt:
|
| >
| ><rubio@panama.com> wrote in message news:flhckvob7h1vdm03ibnjmvodtjbrvlcb3b@4ax.com...
| >> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 03:47:31 GMT in
| >> <3f459252$1@news.comindico.com.au>, "amazure"
| >> <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> graced the world with this
| >> thought:
| >>
| >> >: http://www.cannabisculture.com/cgi/article.cgi?num=1651 :
| >>
| >> Quote from this article:
| >> "Unfortunately, the ABC does not provide a potent smoke"
| >
| >Nothing any half-decent breeder couldn't fix by crossing with
| >Potent Strains & selecting for both potency & appearance.
| >
| >Add a little Colchicine for good measure & mutation :-)
| >
|
| It could get complex though. Hundreds of diffent Second or even
| third generation crosses. The major use would be for outdoor plants
| therefore a strain that breeds true would be of more use than a clone.
|
| Alano
Breeding true will take more than 8 generations
of culling throwbacks but you can have
reasonably stable strains by the 5th.
You don't need hundreds of crosses,
even though more is better & easier.
You can even make a mutant female produce
some fertile male flowers, which can be used
to self-pollinate & in-breed the plant to help
maximize the traits you are seeking, while
culling offspring with bad traits.
It just takes time... Like All Plant Breeding :-)
Moon Doggie
08-23-2003, 06:26 PM
On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:41:51 GMT, "amazure"
<amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> wrote:
(snip)
>You can even make a mutant female produce
> some fertile male flowers, which can be used
> to self-pollinate & in-breed the plant to help
> maximize the traits you are seeking, while
> culling offspring with bad traits.
>
>It just takes time... Like All Plant Breeding :-)
>
Don't forget that forcing a hermie and then self-pollinating it will
greatly increase the odds of getting hermie offspring in later
generations.
Keep on truckin'
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amazure
08-24-2003, 02:25 AM
"Moon Doggie" <moondoggie@xyzxyzxyz.com> wrote in message news:ClO1b.2853972$cI2.382384@news.easynews.com...
| On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:41:51 GMT, "amazure"
| <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> wrote:
|
| (snip)
|
| >You can even make a mutant female produce
| > some fertile male flowers, which can be used
| > to self-pollinate & in-breed the plant to help
| > maximize the traits you are seeking, while
| > culling offspring with bad traits.
| >
| >It just takes time... Like All Plant Breeding :-)
| >
|
| Don't forget that forcing a hermie and then self-pollinating it will
| greatly increase the odds of getting hermie offspring in later
| generations.
Only if it is genetically prone to being a hermie.
If it is a Non-hermie female genetically, then
the offspring should be all genetically Female.
Genetically Female plants can still go hermie,
usually due to stress of one kind or another.
|
| Keep on truckin'
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|
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, "amazure" <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> wrote:
>"Moon Doggie" <moondoggie@xyzxyzxyz.com> wrote in message
>news:ClO1b.2853972$cI2.382384@news.easynews.com...
>| On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:41:51 GMT, "amazure"
>| <amazure@islandparadiseproject.com> wrote:
>|
>| (snip)
>|
>| >You can even make a mutant female produce
>| > some fertile male flowers, which can be used
>| > to self-pollinate & in-breed the plant to help
>| > maximize the traits you are seeking, while
>| > culling offspring with bad traits.
>| >
>| >It just takes time... Like All Plant Breeding :-)
>| >
>|
>| Don't forget that forcing a hermie and then self-pollinating it will
>| greatly increase the odds of getting hermie offspring in later
>| generations.
>
>Only if it is genetically prone to being a hermie.
>If it is a Non-hermie female genetically, then
>the offspring should be all genetically Female.
That's true.
>Genetically Female plants can still go hermie,
>usually due to stress of one kind or another.
But when the source of the stress is removed so are the hermaphroditic
traits.... IF the plants came from a pure female, that is.
The key here is that genetically female means 100% genetically female,
pure, which is what I think you meant by saying "non-hermie female
genetically". IOW The female shows no hermie traits when grown under
indigenous conditions. Forcing/stressing such a 100% female is simply
making her display hermaphroditic traits against her genetic will, just so
you can get some pollen from her. Neither her genes, nor that of her
self-pollinated offspring, will change under the stress of occasional
forced sex reversal. The only things that could cause her offspring to
show hermie traits are stress they're encounerting in their own
environment, or that thier mother wasn't as 100% female as she was believed
to be.
The only way to know if you have a 100% female or something less than 100%
(a hermie) is to grow her clones (preferably indoors) so all sources of
stress can be controlled and eliminated. If you still see signs of
hermaphroditism during the normal flowering cycle, then she wasn't 100%. I
was careful to say "normal" growing cycle, because and extended flowering
period (for the strain) usually induces enough stress to produce the odd
male flower.
I grow a very stable strain, SK#1, but I don't harvest her early. I let
her flower til she's very ripe, usually til she sees about 90-95% brown
pisitls:-) Each crop is giving me about 14-15 ounces of prime manicured
bud, and always just 2 or 3 seeds. I'd call her 100% female, and chalk the
seeds up to stress from the extended flowering. If, technically speaking,
there is no such thing as 100% in nature, then all I can say is she's close
enough to 100% not to do any of the damage associated with growing hermies.
pH
>
>|
>| Keep on truckin'
>| - Moon Doggie -
>|
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>|
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