Re: CO2 equipment

[pH]

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, rubio@panama.com wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a site with good prices for CO2 accessories? I
>have the regulator and tank, since I brew, but I'm looking for
>monitoring stuff for a grow room, that kind of thing.
>Thanks.

I can't help with prices, but there's some links for garden testing and
automation devices in the faq. You might also want to check out
http://www.discounthydro.com if you haven't already been there.

pH

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[rubio@panama.com]

On 11 Aug 2003 10:12:45 -0000 in
<20030811101245.4062.qmail@nym.alias.net>, pH
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>On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, rubio@panama.com wrote:
>>Can anyone recommend a site with good prices for CO2 accessories? I
>>have the regulator and tank, since I brew, but I'm looking for
>>monitoring stuff for a grow room, that kind of thing.
>>Thanks.
>
>I can't help with prices, but there's some links for garden testing and
>automation devices in the faq. You might also want to check out
>http://www.discounthydro.com if you haven't already been there.
>
>pH

Excellent, thanks a lot, I haven't been there yet.

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On 12 Aug 2003 07:49:18 -0000 in
<20030812074918.31730.qmail@nym.alias.net>, pH
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>On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, rubio@panama.com wrote:
>>On 11 Aug 2003 10:12:45 -0000 in
>><20030811101245.4062.qmail@nym.alias.net>, pH
>><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> graced the world with this thought:
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>>>On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, rubio@panama.com wrote:
>>>>Can anyone recommend a site with good prices for CO2 accessories? I have
>>>>the regulator and tank, since I brew, but I'm looking for monitoring
>>>>stuff for a grow room, that kind of thing. Thanks.
>>> I can't help with prices, but there's some links for garden testing and
>>> automation devices in the faq. You might also want to check out
>>> http://www.discounthydro.com if you haven't already been there.
>
>pH
>> Excellent, thanks a lot, I haven't been there yet.
>
>Good luck, that stuff can get really expensive. Good thing you already had
>the regulator and tank, it kinda makes the bullet easier to bite. You
>might want to think about how accurately you'll be controlling CO2 levels
>because the more precise you want it to be, the more you'll need to be in
>control of your ventilation. Tank refills get to be a real PITA,
>especially when you know a lot of them could be prevented if the venting
>was set up differently. They never empty at a convenient time either:-)
>Seriously ponder your current venting situation first, to see how much
>control you can have over it without doing or spending more than you'd like
>to. I'd hate to see you blow all that cash on monitoring equipment just to
>find out later that you can't benefit from CO2 enrichment because upgrading
>your venting would cost too much or be too much trouble. It all depends on
>your situation though, some folks will need to do major work while others
>won't, some are do-it-yourselfers some aren't..... yadayada.
>
>FYI Below is a message to Positronics about CO2 enrichment, and their
>reply....
>
>pH
>
>
>
>I saw the following sentence on your web site regarding yield...
>"CO2 is only a good idea when conventional techniques are already
>yielding somewhere between 500 and 600 gram per square meter."
>
>When you say 500 to 600 gram per square meter yield, are you referring
>to "fresh" yield, or the yield after it is "dried"?
>
>About what % increase in that yield would you attribute to CO2 use?
>
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>Positronics reply:
>Hi(gh),
>Greetings from Amsterdam :)
>The reference to weight is dried weight and you could expect a 10% -15%
>increase after the first two or three attempts ( it takes time to set up)
>but due to the extra work involved extra ventalation and doors for the
>vents that must seal the room while the CO2 is introduced and then open to
>vent it, we have tested it (check out the free blowing video) and although
>there will be an increase providing EVERYTHING is correct the work
>outweighs the benifits, not to mention the horror story of a grower who's
>cat went to sleep in the growroom and never woke up!
>Cool, hope this helps :)
>Peace
>Martijn and Everyone at Positronics

Thanks for the advice, definitely things that need to be considered.
Refills really aren't a problem for me, or at least are pretty much at
the bottom of the list of problems, there's an industrial gas store
about five minutes away that I generally deal with. And thanks for
that post from Postronics, it's quite informative along the lines of
keeping things in perspective.